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Rg_
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Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I started this thread on a different forum which has some of the same members as here. Despite a slow start it eventually picked up nicely, with some surprising variations. Some there who were not paddled themselves or did not attend a school that used it nonetheless knew extensive information about others from real life, and answered by "proxy." One lady, for example, was very familiar with the experiences of a neighbor's child in this regard.

Factual school information is my favorite interest, so here's the survey from the other board (slightly modified). If you’re motivated to do so, go into some detail with your answers, and that will help to generate even more dialogue.

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1. Were you ever paddled (or spanked) when attending school (grades K-12)? If so, in what grades, and how many times in each grade, to the best of your memory?


2. Who gave the paddlings mentioned above?



3. Describe the paddle(s) used on you?



4. How many licks were you given? Were they given rapidly, one after the other, or with some pause in between? If you were paddled more than once what was the typical number you were given, and what was the most you were ever given?



5. How would you describe the feeling/sensation of the paddling? How much did it hurt? Did it leave marks, and if what kind and how long did they last?



6. What positions were you put in for your paddlings?



7. What were your thoughts, feelings, and emotions prior to being paddled, during, afterward?



8. Were boys only paddled in your schools, or were girls also paddled? If both, were there differences in how it was practiced between the genders?



9. If you were paddled at school, would your parents find out? How?



10. What was your most memorable paddling experience? Why?


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Rosycheeks
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Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 12:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I did not get any spankings while attending grades K-6. After transfering to another school in our district, which was stricter, I started getting paddlings. Usually these were for talking in class or small misdemeanors such as that. My first spanking was in the 7th grade by a female English teacher( which for some reason did not like me from the beginning but the feeling was mutual. Her paddle was aobut about 20 to 22 inches in length including the handle and was approx 1/2 inch thick. The licks stung but did not leave any marks. She had me leave the classroom step into the hall, and she entered into the library which was right across the hall and asked the librian to watch her admister the paddling. (some kids had been bruised and she was also known to accidently hit short kids in the lower back, she was tall and wore high heels so she had to be careful how she hit you)I had to stand away from the wall a little ways and put my hands on the wall stretched out with my butt sticking out some and legs slightly apart. I was mad as hell, felt humiated because for that paddling I really had not done anything. I know that sounds like the convicted person saying they are innocent but it was true this time. Girls and boys both were paddled in our schools. USually male teachers or male principal and vice principal did not hit girls as hard as boys and usually girls got threatened more than anything. Female teachers were fair to both sexes, both got hit the same. Our parents were not told unless it was a serious offense. My most memorable spanking was one I received from our male vice principal- me and five other friends, boys and girls, kept forgetting to do our homework so our teacher finally sent us to the office. We were scared stiff because we were told we were going to be suspended for the offense. But the vice-principal gave us a choice. Promise to do our homework for now on and do it, take a paddling and take a pink slip home to parents to be signed showing that you will be suspended if you forget your homework once more to be signed by one of your parents or get suspended.
We all picked to have a paddling and take the pink slip home to be signed by a parent. We had to put our hands on his desk and bend over so our butts stuck out and then he gave us 5 licks each. I was terrified and wanted to cry but noticed that the other girls wanted to also but werent so figured if they could handle it I could. As we got paddled we were to go out of the office and wait in the front office for our pink slips. As he had me positioned I was trembleing not only the paddling but how to slip that note onto my mom without getting spanked by her and pass my dad all together without him knowing about it. I almost fainted when he just barely touched my backside with paddle. As I went out to stand and wait for the others, we heard him wham the boys pretty good. I waited til the next morning right when I seen the bus coming to our stop to present my mom with the slip of paper and a short version of the story and told her if it wasnot signed I would be suspended, she signed it and for once in my life I was surprised, no punishment was forth coming from home, I think she knew me sweating it out all day wondering was worse than anything she could have done to me.
Hope this is sorta what you wanted. It has never been easy for me to talk about any of my punishments until lately.
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Rg_
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Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 01:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rosy,

That was a great account. You did a good job.

Actually, the first of my four paddlings was not deserved, either. In 6th grade the teacher was on the other side of the room, and the students on my side were supposed to be quiet and studying. A boy and girl in the row next to me (I was between them and the teacher) started whispering. The teacher looked over and just generally told the class that the next one to talk would be paddled. Soon enough the boy and girl started whispering again. The teacher heard it, slammed her book shut, and immediately went and got her paddle from her desk. She started our way, and I was watching her, expecting her to walk over to the offenders. When she got to my row, though she suddenly turned down it and stopped at my desk! She thought it was me talking, and I was paddled!

I heard years later from a friend of mine who taught with her that she still felt guilty about it.

RG of PAS
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Rosycheeks
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Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

RG,
The teacher I mentioned in my story, I also had her for study hall. There were two rows of desk to one side of the room especially for her study hall students. I was her only study hall student in that class so I was setting in the first of the two rows in the middle of the row and turned to the side facing the wall. This was away from her other students. While teaching class she called out for me to quit talking. I turned and gave her a very stupid look (I was approx. 12 or 13 years old) and asked her exactly who was I talking to. Well I didnot get a paddling but she made me get her spelling book and write my spelling words 20 times each to turn in after class. Needless to say finished them earlier than she expected. She had two desk for her, one for her to sit behind and the other for an aide to grade papers. Her glasses where setting on the aides desk (noone was sitting there) and as I went to put her spelling book on the desk I had the very evil thought of knocking her glasses off. The only thing that stopped me was the idea of my parents having to pay for new glasses and my backside covering the cost.
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Rosycheeks
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Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 04:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My second paddling came from a female teacher again, but she was a history teacher. While we were doing work she was called out of the room and we were told not to talk while she was out. I wound up talking. She had left a girl in charge of taking names and me and a few others were the ones talking. She had us come up in front of the class one at a time and asked us why we were getting a paddling. Then had us put our hands on her desk, bending so our butts stuck out just enough and then gave each of us approx. 5 licks. Unlike before I was not mad, I had been in the wrong, but I was humilated because 20 some odd students were watching. The licks stung but nothing bad, just enough to make you want to cry but there was no way anybody was going to cry in front of the class. We knew for the rest of the class that we had been paddled because she loved to get a couple of licks in on the sit spot. Her paddle was approx. 20 to 22 inches long also. I think whoever made one paddle for the teachers made all of them. The classes that I defitinely didnot act up in were the ones that were taught by coaches. They were the strictest of all.
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Rg_
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Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rosy,

I infer from your initial account that your first paddling was in 7th grade. What grade was this second paddling, by the history teacher, in?

And, of course, your last line begs the question of what the coaches classes were like. I take it you weren't paddled there, but must have some knowledge about that to share with us.

What state did this occur in (where did you grow up)?

Also, could you drop me an e-mail at rg0044_2@yahoo.com please? I would surely appreciate it.

Thanks!

R.G.
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Rosycheeks
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Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

R.G.,
The three paddlings that I recieved all happened between the 7th and 8th grade. It was rumored that one of the coaches found out some of the football players had went to a party after a victory game and was drinking, that Monday he paddled the football players that done that and they said he broke the paddle while paddling one of them. Bascially I was a good girl that just sometimes got into trouble right after I started going to this school. After I learnt who would let you get away with stuff and who wouldn't, I just made sure not to tee off the wrong teacher. I grew in Alabama. I have lived in Alabama all of my life. At the area school I was first attending elementary and middle school, I had brothers that were a few years older than I so the teachers knew my brothers and my parents, I had to be especially good, these schools would contact your parents if something went wrong.
In Kindergarden our class was having play time in the room when a mother showed up and wanted to talk to the teacher. The woman was a black woman and her little girl had been acting up and the teacher had written her a note. The teacher let the mother in the room and she had a long switch with her, you talk about cowering, even though none of us others were her kids we all grew very quite and you could not have gotten us to move. The teacher, the child, and the mother went out into the hallway and we heard the girl screaming and her mother getting on to her, and through the little window in the door you could the mother and child going around in a circle. We all felt sorry for the little girl and I believe the teacher did also.
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Tom
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Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2003 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A girlfriend told me that once she and a friend had been summoned to a teacher's "office" (they had these little alcoves shared between classes) after school one day when she and Brenda has been misbehaving in their 11th grade class. She said Mr. xx had taken Brenda into a side room, and closed the door, and that she heard scolding through the door, but couldn't make out any words. She did remember, however, the distinct sounds of "whacks", and muffled pleading, from the other room. Brenda, she told me, soon shuffled out of the room rubbing her bottom and sporting teary eyes. My confidant explained that she was next summoned when she and Mr. xx seemed to be the only people left in the big old school. She remembered being lectured for her misdeeds, and summarily upended over her teacher's lap. She said she was wearing a skirt, which was quickly whisked up, revealing her bare legs. She told me that the big man rested his hand on her pantied bottom while lecturing her on her failures, and that although she knew that this was somehow wrong she'd felt small, and incapable of protesting in any meaningful way. She recounted that she'd wished he would move his hand but was so intimidated by the whole experience that she didn't even make a sound. Then, she told me, he'd produced a mean, thin, paddle out of nowhere and proceeded to warm the seat of her panties in a no-nonsense manner and about 20 swats! She said he'd looked at her in a funny way every time after than when she passed him in the hall, and that she'd blushed remembering what had passed between them. She didn't like him, she said, or find him attractive, ever, but couldn't keep that memory out of her consciousness as she finished school.
TWT
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Hakriter
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Posted on Monday, October 13, 2003 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If there was paddling done while I was in school, I wasn't aware of it, but when I became a teacher I found out that it was being used as discipline. My first job was in a rural 7-12 school, and the teachers were allowed to whack the kids. One teacher did this so enthusiastically that the police came to talk to him. I never wanted that kind of responsibility or used it.
Then I moved into a large system in which administrators were allowed to paddle. This occurred as sort of a last resort, I think, when kids wouldn't honor detention or had been in fights. The idea of paddling for failure to do homework appeals to me. Most kids didn't do homework and their parents backed them. In general, the parents were not on the side of the teachers when it came to discipline. One example: I had taken a note from a girl as she tried to pass it to a friend. I didn't read it aloud or anything of that nature. The mother came stomping in after school, hair in curlers, and gave me hell for taking the girl's note. It was none of my business, you see.
I managed to avoid witnessing paddlings, except for two. The first was a boy. He was made to empty his pockets and bend over. He got two swats with a large, fraternity style paddle. He hollered and danced after each swat. Later I witnessed a girl get paddled. The administrator hit her just as hard, and she never made a noise or moved. She left his office walking awkwardly with tears in her eyes however.
A year or so after this, the parents of a paddled boy sued the school system, displaying the kid's bruises and contusions on tv. The system settled, of course. Now lawsuits come if the educator puts her hand on a kid's shoulder or grabs him in an attempt to break up a fight.
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Hopeful1
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Born as I was in the early 1980s this sort of punishment was definately not okay in my public schools. However, in nursery school I received spankings OTK by hand from the lady in charge. I think I was three or a young four. The offenses were generally talking during nap time. Both me and my best friend got spanked for that more than once and my friend got spanked for lots of other infractions too (being "fresh" was one). I have distinct memories of going around to the other children just as they were waking up from the nap and saying, "we didn't wake you up, did we? You just woke up on your own, right?" And I was so frustrated when some of the kids were like, "I don't know..." I mean c'mon, if they didn't know, that should totally be counted as if they woke up on their own.

One thing I think is interesting about this is that neither of us ever told our parents (who would have been horrified at the nursery school and not at us!). We grew up at a time/ in a place where it was okay for parents to occassionally spank but not nursery schools or day care.

Another interesting thing about this that I have alluded to in another post is that the spankings though of a personal nature (OTK by hand) were not of a loving nature at all. I don't remember hugs afterwards...I remember being yelled at to be quiet.

Also, while I don't think I suffered damage from this sort of spanking I do look back on it as wrong. I think that's because it was motivated by frustration and anger and not concern for our welfare.

Sorry if that is off topic! I am very curious about the details of the K-12 CP as it's been a subject i've been reading about all my life. Just wanted to share that I see a distinction between K-12 school spankings and school spankings for younger kids...

Wendy
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1. I wasn't spanked or paddled by anyone at school from k through 8. However, when I started high school things changed. I was paddled in the ninth grade about ten times and about the same for each grade after.
2. Either the dean or the vice principle
3. The girl's dean's paddle was about 20' long and 4" inches wide and about 1/2" thick. The vice principle's paddle was the same except that it had black tape around the handle and the edges were more rounded.
4. First infraction was five swats. Second infraction was ten swats. Third infraction sent home.
5. When I got five swats it was just a warming sensation. When I got ten swats it stung from the eighth on. No bruising just a little red that didn't last over night.
6.The dean had me bend over and grab my ankles. The vice priniple had me bend over a chair with my toes touching each chair leg and my face to rest in the chair seat while holding onto the front chair legs.
7. The very first time I was paddled by the dean I was scared that it would be like my dad. However, during the paddling I kind of laughed because it didn't hurt at all and I was surprised. The second time I was paddled was by the vice principle and I wasn't even worried. I even thanked him after he finished. I think that they were trying to be easy on me because I was a girl or something. However that changed after the third time right after my suspension and the vice principal heard me tell another student that the dean hit like my grandmother and to not worry about it. After that I was paddled harder but no bad marks were left like my dad did when I got home from school.
8.Both were paddled I think boys might have been paddled harder, don't really know.
9.Yes, my parents were called each time after the suspention.
10. When I was 15 and my dad had paddled me while my sister and mother watched. When he was done I stood up and turned to him and laughed and told him that he was getting old because it didn't hurt that much. My mother winced and my sister kinda giggled. Then my dad grabbed me and dragged me out of the house and took me out to the garage and took a piece of rubber hose to my butt and legs. Now that hurt and left bruises that lasted along time.
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Rg_
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Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 07:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, one of the few perks of being away for a few weeks is that when you return there are a lot of new posts to read. And even new additions in my favorite topic! Life is too good. ;-)

Tom, Hakriter, Wendy, and Myfigment, I have a few questions:

TOM
What state was this in, and what year was it?

HAKRITER
At the rural school that you mention what were the paddling practices in general? I infer that teachers could certainly use the paddle. How was it generally done, how frequently, etc. Was it used through the 12th grade? Since teachers could paddle was there much done in the principal's office? If so, for what reasons would teachers decide to send kids there rather than take care of it themselves? Also, what years were you at this system?

At the larger school you mention that you managed to "avoid" witnessing paddlings. Were you particularly reluctant to do this? You mention the one boy and girl. Were they both paddled by the same person? How did he position them for the paddling? (You mention "bend over" in a very generic way--exactly how were they positioned?) Also, can you describe more of what you know about paddlings at this school? Was there more than one administrator who paddled? How did they go about it? How frequent was a paddling at this school? And what years were you at this school?

WENDY
What state was this in? Were you spanked at home while growing up?

MYFIGMENT

First, thanks for such a careful and organized response! As one who is always collecting factual information, that it certainly appreciated.

First, overall, in what state did you go to school, and in what year did you graduate from high school?

1. Though you weren't personally paddled, was paddling done in K-8? If so, how frequent was it, who did it, how, etc.?

You stated that you were paddled about 10 times in each year of high school. That would be 40 times--more or less--altogether! That's an amazing number. Were you typical of students at your school (i.e, was paddling that common?) or were you a bit above the average?

4. Was this within a certain time period (i.e, did you start over, back at being paddled instead of being sent home)? In some schools the system "resets" each quarter, semester, or such. Or did it count for the whole year?

5. It seems that the paddling was very light, since you say that five swats from a reasonable paddle only resulted in a warming sensation, and that it only began to actually "sting" at eight. Were you just especially immune to the sensation of a paddling, or did the administrators at your school just paddle very lightly?

When you say it began stinging at eight, how much did it actually sting?

6. Who paddled you the most, and how much compared to the other?

The position the vice principal made you adopt is interesting. I've only heard of something like that (American school system) once before. Can you describe the chair a bit more so that I can get a better grasp of this position? When you say your toes were touching the chair legs, do you mean that that you had to put the *front* of your feet against the chair legs, or put your feet inside or outside the legs, touching from the side with the front of your shoe? How far down teh front of the legs did you have to grasp?

7. How did you Dad paddle? Why were you worried that it would be like this?

You say that after the third time that the paddling was harder? How much harder was it? To what affect?

You also make a refernece to the fact the way you were paddled might have been different because you were a girl? Why do you say this? Were girls paddled differently in general? Was the experience different for boys?

10. You say your Dad used a "rubber hose" on you? What kind of hose? Was it round, rather than flat?

Thanks all!

R.G.




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Hopeful1
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Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 01:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

R.G., to answer your questions:
1. The nursery school spankings took place in Massachusetts.
2. Yeah, my parents did spank very occasionally, and most of the time only my brother was spanked. I was such a good kid though that I probably didn't get it more than once or twice in my whole childhood, and that was when I was very young (less than seven). Always it happened very quickly, maybe a warning or two but once that line had been crossed it was a shockingly fast experience. Being sent to my room would follow but there was never any build up prior to the spanking (i.e. there were no warnings "go wait in your room for a spanking" or any such prolongment of the punishment). Spankings were usually a result of my parents being at their wits end...I think they stopped when my brother finally got tougher and said, "that doesn't hurt!" My parents weren't willing to make it hurt more so they just stopped using that as a means of punishment.

Wendy


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